6 Kansas Teens arrested – Home Invasion

Kelly
I’m not sure, but I think home invasion and beatings get ” a large amount of attention in big cities also.

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The Carreon family have made it quite clear that they have no respect or concern for Tyler. They have gone as far to admit that he deserved to have his home invaded and he deserved the beating. We can’t change that, but how about showing some respect for his mother. You keep saying we can’t blame parents for their kids actions. Be mindful of how she must be feeling about her son…..keep your kids off Facebook..don’t let them ride around laughing with their windows down and the music blaring. Tylers parents shouldn’t have to witness this.

Kelly, this is just one small isolated incident, but I hope it gets my point across. Imagine, just for a moment, that Tyler is your brother. You wake up one morning, get on Facebook, and see that one of the boys involved, after his arrest, has updated his profile picture. He is standing in front of his bathroom mirror with a big smile on his face. Now remember, this kid is only 17 and still in highschool. Are you going to get angry and judge this kid or his parents? I’m going to judge the parents. There are so many things that we have to witness as a community since these arrests. Did you know it took a judge to order these kids to be home every night by 9:00. The parents let them run long off midnight before this ruling. Yes, we are angry. Don’t judge us, Kelly.

All I can say is “wow”…I dont live in Kansas any longer but did for years…I know that a small town is boring to most and when something like this happens it gets a large amount of attention…People that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Instead of saying all of these horrible things on the internet put yourself in all the parents and grandparents shoes for a minute…you shouldnt judge the way any parent does their job. Being a parent of a teen is definately the hardest thing I have ever had to do and most of the time I feel like I fail. Im just saying If you have never made a mistake in your life then talk away badly about all in this situation. If God sent you to Kansas to judge then keep on talking. Im thinking everyone makes mistakes and God probably doesnt have anyone in Kansas working under Him. Please stop all of the hateful comments. I know misery loves company but it only hurts people and I love the Carreon Family.. All of them. All of the boys made a mistake. Dont judge their families for it.

Who did Tyler attack????

Well when you put it that way……….yea,

you So you want 6 boss 3 of which have no prior charges our legal problems and one of which volunteered to serve for and possibly fire for his country and have them suit in prison for protecting a friend who had recently been attacked by Tyler. the only message you’re sending them is that if you try to do good the world tries its best to screw you.

Apparently a few people think we need to pay these judges their salaries to give these boys time outs or just a little spanking. But…wait a minute…these r not boys…..they r young men, who at 17 r old enough to make adult decisions like joining the national guard. Do we expect our judical system to let 16 year olds speed without getting a ticket? No, they r treated the same for their protection as well as the protection of others. Our judical system has the responsibility to serve and protect the citizens that pay their salaries.

as far as im concerned all of these kids can sit in prison for 30 years i dont like any of them at all they screwed up and they deserve to get in as much trouble as posible….i mean come on they got in trouble for the party that was at water street apartments and basically got a slap on the wrist so does that mean that they are going to get a slap on the wrist for breaking into tylers house and beating him…i hope not they need to be punished for what they did or else they are going to learn nothing i know if my kid got in trouble i would not bail them out of jail i would make both of them sit in jail till court date and make then learn there lesson that it was stupid…i sure as hell wouldnt bail them out of jail and let them go about there day and rome the streets of kansas like they did nothing wrong…

I have read the posts and have really been thinking the past few days on this. I am appauled by the comments I am reading on here regarding these boys. YES, boys. They are not grown men who may have experienced life a little or already gone through horrific emotional changes to make them experienced to call themselves men. Have any of you served your country by other means than gossip or judgment?

One of the first things that went through my mind was Wow! this is terrible for Tyler and terrible for these boys. This all should have been dealt with by the adults here rather than allowing these boys to go and act as boys do, with testosterone. They are still boys and not grown men, yes they are close of age but come on!!
No doubt what they did is a terrible thing and I hope I never have to go through that nor anyone I know, but the fact is it happened. Kansas, the “tight knit community”, who is “known for this as well as being Christians, is staking these kids out and lighting a fire under their feet like it is a witch hunt. COME ON! Who are any of you to judge them? Who are any of you to put such harsh conditions on this very public website? I think talking electively about this is good for them as well as the community, but it really isn’t any of your concern.

If you have an opinion about something, I would like to know where that “very strong” opinion was when you saw the occurance with the gun or the fight? Did you go to the family or to the kid who looked like he was reaching out? WHY??? If you care so much, then why? It is just as much a sin to turn away from someone in need when you see it than it is to commit a crime, in Christian eyes that is.

It is a tragic occurrence and will be dealt with, but I really hope you all can set aside your own opinions and allow this to happen and get over with. Has anyone in this community offered to help any of the parents or the kids or Tyler? Offered community service? Offered to lend an ear or just to talk to? I didn’t think so, but you sure have offered your opinions very loudly(behind names).

Remember, we are all people and no one is perfect. We are not here to judge one another, but to coexist and get along. Forgiveness goes a long way, and you will find that it helps you move along as well. People make wrong turns. It happens, sucks, but it does.

I just find it odd that such a strong community has gone so weak when something like this has happened and the strength of the community is needed to help hold the town together, instead, we argue and fight instead of supporting each other through this, pointing fingers and making assumptions.

These boys are all wishing they could turn back time and for those of you who think you deserve an explanation or feel that the boys should show their fear or humiliation a different way….who are you to be the one to say how they should display that?
Be compassionate to the families, they are going through a difficult time right now on both sides.

No one person is to blame here, if you asked me it is all of the lack of help here that sounds like may have prevented this mishap in the first place, for those who are concerned anyway.

This is obviously my opinion and my heart aches for everyone involved here. It travels farther than the boys and Tyler. Hopefully this is handles swiftly and honestly so everyone can get closure and there is no more bashing. We need to see the good in people, when we do that, the good comes out in the end.

as far as im concerned all of these kids can sit in prison for 30 years i dont like any of them at all they screwed up and they deserve to get in as much trouble as posible….i mean come on they got in trouble for the party that was at water street apartments and basically got a slap on the wrist so does that mean that they are going to get a slap on the wrist for breaking into tylers house and beating him…i hope not they need to be punished for what they did or else they are going to learn nothing i know if my kid got in trouble i would not bail them out of jail i would make both of them sit in jail till court date and make then learn there lesson that it was stupid…i sure as hell wouldnt bail them out of jail and let them go about there day and rome the streets of kansas like they did nothing wrong…

the hunter kid has been there forr the cottles are you serious? the kid does everything he can to piss off austin cottle he was a part in all of the kids breaking into the cottles house and taking money from them and his was also behind all of the things that happened to tyler because the hunter kid was the one that started fights with him the night before. and you want to try in say he is a good kid are you dumb? all he does is start trouble in this town there wouldnt be any drugs in most of these kids lives if it wasnt for him

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All Tyler did was to tell a distressed husband that the rumors about his wife were true. Don’t shoot the messenger.

There were no tips, just a Precaution by Kansas school when some high school students reported seeing Caleb driving around with a gun.

All Tyler did was tell a distressed husband that the rumors about his wife were true. Don’t shoot the messenger.

The taller of the two hunter brothers is the one that has shown off his gun on more than one occasion. the police got tolde about it but if they cant catch him with it what can you do? Anyone wonder why there was such a heavy showing of cops during graduation this year?

I know for a fact that none of these boys think they got away with anything. If you think for one second that they and their parents aren’t losing sleep at night then your dead wrong. Its almost all they will think about until this ordeal reaches its conclusion. I know I’ve been there and some maybe you gossiped and judged and made anonymous posts to sites similar to this. I never cared for myself , but it hurt my family as I’m sure its hurting these kids families. So I just wanted to speak for these boys from a place that’s real. I cannot vouch for them all, but I know some well, and I assure you their punishment has already began. It is in an unjust place, the court of public opinion, and to many have passed guilty verdicts down based on gossip or a judicial website you read. We have all been in a bad place in some way, shape, or form be it socially, criminally, and or civilly. If not then praise God he who has no sin has returned to us….not really….Innocent untill PROVEN guilty, not by small town politics and gossip or innuendo, but by a jury of their peers, or a judge if they so choose. Not the mob who comes down the street with their own justice and their own verdict. I was born in the wrong time with a belief that whatever comes out of a persons mouth, though they have the right to say as they please, should also be accountable for his or her own words. It is to easy this day and age to say things you have no intention of backing up. People like this rely on bystanders and police to step in and save them from their own stupidity. If our founders had been that way we would still be a part of the U.K. I do not condone them breaking into this man’s house either, maybe the offended party should have confronted the man personally. I know that some of you think that would just be trouble also, but what’s the alternative? Say what you want about anyone you want where ever you want. I would rather live in a place where men say what they have to say face-to-face and solve their differences then and there. That will never happen though that time and place no longer exists, and the rumormill runs rampant in these small communities worse than anywhere else. So please quit doing the judicial branch’s job we have elected officials for that, andlets just see how this all plays out. As for E.C.W.s they only report the facts, and they do so evenly to alleged criminals, dirty police, and crooked politicians. Thanks

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Get me approved john….

I know for a fact that none of these boys think they have gotten away with anything. If you believe that they and their parents aren’t losing sleep at night then your dead wrong. Its almost all they will think about until this ordeal reaches its conclusion. I know I’ve been there with many of you who are so righteous whispering and pointing, and I couldn’t give a damn. I just wish to speak for these boys and their families as some of you did for me and mine. They feel alone , they feel alone, ostracized, and scared. I cannot vouch for all them but I know some, and as I see it their punishment has already began. It is at the hands of “The Court of Public Opinion”, that is all of you on here rushing to judgement after you have heard some gossip, or read some judicial website. We have all been there in some shape or form be it socially, criminally, and or civilly. If not then thank god the messiah walks among us. ; ) As for their right to attend school functions had they been convicted at the time yes the school would have the authority to bar them. Since they were innocent and I believe not even charged at that time the school had no authority to deny them based on rumor and allegation. Further, had it been tried the school could have found itself in a legal battle also. Innocent until “PROVEN” guilty, not by small town politics, gossip, and innuendo, but by a jury of their peers if they so choose or a judge. Not the “mob” coming down the street with their own verdict. To you who have been fearful, why? Have you been drunk at the bar slamming their family, their honor? I have a feeling you have been scared much longer than four weeks. I was born in the wrong time I believe that what a man says he is accountable for. It is to easy to let your mouth write checks your a*# can’t cash. These days people say as they please then count on the police and bystanders to stop the melee caused by one’s own stupidity. I do not condone them breaking into this man’s how either, maybe the insulted party should have confronted the man personally. I know that some think that would just be trouble also, but what’s the alternative? Say what you want, whenever you want, about anyone you want? I would rather live in a world when men said what they have to say face to face, and solve their differences then and there. That will never happen though that time is dead, and the gossip and rumors run rampant in these small farm communities. So I ask that we let our elected officials do their jobs, and we sit back and see how this plays out. As for Edgar County Watchdogs they only report the facts, and they do so evenly to all be it alleged criminals, dirty police, and crooked politicians.

Let me start by saying I know some of these boy’s parents and granparents and yes everyone is hurting. As parents, we do the Best we can in raising our children. We love them, protect them, teach them right from wrong, and hope to God that they stay safe and make the right choices in their lives. No one is a perfect parent. Are any of You?? So for the blame to be put on the male role models in these kids lives is not fair. What they did was WRONG! No one is justifying it! We can’t blame the dads, stepdads, grandfathers, uncles, teachers, coaches, principals, most men in kansas, because these are the role models. Most of these men are well respected, hard working, good men!!!! So we blame them??? These boys are paying the price along with everyone else involved by the humiliation, shame, hurt, anger, disbelief. And now the Village of Kansas is out to get these kids and their parents. I’m embarrassed to say I live in Kansas! They will have their day in court and their punishment will be handed out. And they will have to live with that the rest of their life. My mom taught me “if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all.” She also taught me “Treat others as you want to be treated.” My church taught me “love thy neighbor as thy self.” I tried to live by this advice, but as much as we want to do the right thing, sometimes we fail. Can everyone please stop the hatred? And, in regards to one of these boys with a gun….Why did no one call the authorities and get it handled. Or is this just a rumor? Thanks, I hope people can read this and open their minds.

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I feel for the grandparent who wrote in. I can’t imagine the pain you must feel to know your grandchildren might spend time in prison. I have always told my children, that right or wrong, in the United States of America, when someone says terrible things about you or your family, you can’t hit them or you get arrested. If we call open game on ex felons like Tyler, then what will out country become? Your grandchildren are felons now. Does that mean that 10 years from now, they won’t have the priviledge of being safe in their own homes? If in the future someone kicks in the door of one of your grandchilden, throws him to floor, beats him with a curtain rod and then shoves his head in the wall, It will be justified because they were convicted of felons back in 2012? Our fore fathers signed a very important document over two hundred years ago that states that as American citizens, we are allowed safety in our own homes.
I am sure you are idolized by your grandchildren, and ritefully so, but one of the reasons your boys have had such a difficult time in their chilhood is because the male role models in their life have constantly made excuses for them. You have to see the pattern here. Multiple people have seen your grandchild driving around with a gun. This is such a scream for help. It’s like he is saying..:”Someone stop me before it’s too late.” I have done some very regretable things in my life. Things that caused people to speak poorly of me. It hurt, but it never occured to me to kick their door in and beat them for it. Does it account for anything that what Tyler confessed he knew, is true. And why did your boys have a motive? It wasn’t their mother that Tyler told on? Instead of justifying what your boys did, why not try to get them some help. They are both such sweet boys, but for years they have had this penned up anger and have not known how to express it. Children don’t feel love unless they are disciplined. When adults constantly let them off the hook for their actions, they will respond with more anger and their crimes will escalate.
Kids want discipline because it’s a sign of love from their parents. Misbehaving can become a way for a child to say….does anyone care and love me enough to try to stop my bad actions? Don’t get me wrong. I hurt for you and I hurt for these boys. I hope they won’t be punished as bad as someone my age would. They are still children, but the men in their lives need to step up and express to them that this was not exceptible . They wil only love you more in the long run.

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I am truly shocked to see comments that somehow justify these kids action because of who the victim was. I dont care what a persons past is, he has the same right as the rest of us to be secure in his own home. Even the worst of the worst should not have their home invaded and recieve a beating.

These kids are inocent until proven guilty and that is our system of justice. Justice is suppose to be blind so not to be pursuaded by connections etc. Those blinders also apply to the victim as well so for those of you that want to somehow excuse these kids actions as not serious because of who the vitim was or what he has done in the past I can only pray you are never selected to be on a jury as it appears your unable to seperate your emotions from facts.

What is sad, the kids with family money are not sitting in jail learning a lesson. Those without family money are learning a hard lessson sitting in jail right now and more than likely will one day appreaciate the lesson they are learning far more than those driving around thinking they got away with this.

All of them are lucky the homeowner didn’t have the ability to protect himself with a gun as they very well could have been shot.

They are being tried as adults because they are adults. Each and every one of them is of age to go into the Military so why not charge them as adults? Prison time? Wont happen in this county.

thanks to everyone who is helping stand up for these boys against the ppl that r talkin shit. if you dont truly know what happened and dont truly know these boy then u shouldnt say anything. you dont know whats going on so dont go stickin ur nose into business that doesnt affect u. they r being tried in court as adults, not minors, and what happens happens and hopefull their lives wont be ruined with prison time.

you people really dont have a clue do you? have you seen there court papers? for starters they cant keep brothers who live together apart and if the are employeed together, then that to is ok,so there you have it.as if its any of your business. How sad! i hate the fact that i have lived here for 35 yrs and moved back here to raise my kids in small town kansas usa. wow what a joke. to think that my family gives money to the church, ran on the ems, fire dept, lions club member and coached all of these kids and yes prob yours too makes me sick! I can tell you stories about lots of kids in this town yes some that would make your head spin! The real shame is that he got his but kicked by running off at the mouth just like half of you! what would you do if he was talking about your family? as to you who claim to be soooo affraid let me tell you something, what they did may be wrong, and it is, but why dont you look up mr. tylers record or do you not care about his background? trust me you should! i dont employee him so i dont feed his addiction like some of you do! find him at the bar at any giving wkend. you make these kids out to be so bad, you write it up as if the broke into the home of some helpless old lady and took her last dime! my god people get a clue!!! and for you whom taged them on face book i would rather my house burn to the ground then have you step foot on my property! you should be ashamed. to be the head of the fire dept then maybe you should act like it! yes if you think the town isnt talking about you too then think again!

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I am very close to all of these boys. They are just a bunch of teenagers that took something too far. If you don’t know them or the whole story, and just know of them and the rumors you’ve heard then don’t say anything. They are all very good kids that have made a bad decision. They know they did wrong and should be punished for what they did. They should not serve prison time. For most of them it is a first offense. I have known these guys since I was young and I truly believe that they just made a bad decision. They are really sweet guys when you get to know them.

most of u r talking shit but i bet half of you dont know them! ik them aint real close but ik know them and have talked to them..they r good kids…took it a lil far but they r getting punished….so stop hatin damn…

I too just witnessed two of the boys driving around with each other. This is truly a violation of their bail.

If these boys are “man” enough, then maybe they need tried as men. That really upsets me to hear the expression, “man enough”. Being young boys is their only hope of leniency, as it should be. These boys are not men. I dont want to see them go to prison at such a young age, but they need some jail time so that they can grow up to be good men and have good lives.

I just witnessed two of the boys driving in the same car together. That was one of the conditions of their bail. They have a curfew and they were asked not to have any contact with each other. I guess what upsets most of the residents of Kansas is the lack of remorse shown by these boys. What are the parents thinking? If my son was looking at possible prison time, I would make him stay home. Do the parents know that their boys are violating the conditions of the bail? And what a slap in the face to the grandparents who had to come up with the bail money..and then to have the boys break the conditions of the bail by riding around together… I see this as a slap in the face to the residents of this town and to the people who had to dig deep in their savings to bail these boys out. It also says to me….look at us…we aren’t afraid of whats going to happen to us.

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I for one am so disappointed in some of the people commenting on this board. To the person who said these boys should FRY, you need some mental help. These boys are paying for what they did by facing the laws that govern this state. They all voluntarily turned themselves in. All of you who are sitting back and judging the boys or their parents are doing so from gossip you have heard (which honestly I think people like you all feed on like pirahna). These boys went too far in what they did and they will pay the price for that. The parents, who have done absolutely nothing wrong by the way, are undoubtedly hurt, upset and in a shambles. You people with no empathy make me sick. I just can’t get past the fact that I thought Kansas had good hearted decent people in it. Now, I am not so sure. I wonder what would happen if some of you and your families were placed under the microscope. What kind of skeltons would fall out of your closets? Shame on you!

o and one more thing. every 1 of these boys were man enough to turn themselves in to the police as soon as they knew they had warrants out. they know they did something wrong which is y some of them r still sitting in jail right now awaiting their trial.

I hope they FRY. This is nothing more than a case of a young man trying to defend his (married) mothers honor, who needs to stay out of the bar and stay home and be a parent.

I do know one of the boys, don’t care about any of the others. He is a good kid, but like I tell my kids if ya do the crime man up and do the time. That’s the way it is, yes I do know the justice system. As far as I’m concerned none of the boys should have been able to participate in any activities. Other than the jail house blues, and don’t drop the soap. They made a dumb decision, there are consequences for every action we make. I agree that what’s wrong with our society is that no one is held to a standard. From crimes to welfare. Let’s get to facts, they broke in a house and beat a man. Great odds that they would get this done, there were 6 of them. It takes a real man or men to do that, what a joke. I dont care what anyone says to another, its wrong to break into someones house, then beat them up. If you have a problem with someone, well do it face to face, not like a punk or in this case a bunch of punks. If you fight you fight, but at least make it fair. Evidently they are a gang, because there is more than one and they have given themselves a name. Anywhere in the world, that would be called a gang.
I don’t want to see any young man goto prison either, but these are a group of thugs that thought they were running something and had no regard for anyone else, or the law. Yes, I said thugs, because that’s what they are.
Moving on, parenting everything starts at home. Wether it be controlling what, where, and whom our kids run with. Well we can not always control that, when they become older and start making their own decisions. We can only hope they make the right decisions. But, when they don’t they have to accept the consequence.
I would have to say no one cares about there story, because at this point unless they say, we broke in and beat a man like a mob and a bunch of THUGS. Then everything else, is a lie and they are just trying to get out of doing time for their crimes. Yes, it is as easy as that. Our prison system is filled with self proclaimed innocent people. You don’t even have to ask they will tell you or any liberal moron that will listen, with hopes of getting out of what they have done.
I’m just voicing mu opinion, but don’t get me wrong I really don’t care if I hurt your feelings. The facts are these boys broke into a house beat a man. They didn’t deserve to goto graduation, or anything else.

“Yes I believe they had a right to attend all those events they were entitled to them.”

Really? Entitled in what way? This, right here, is what’s wrong with the country and the generation to which these individuals belong.

Once you commit a crime, you are no longer entitled to ANYTHING other than a fair and expedient trip through the court system. Screw sports awards, screw graduation and screw plans beyond high school. These young men *allegedly* made the stupidest decision of their lives in a single night and nullified their ‘entitlements’ in one fell swoop.

Until the details can be determined and proper judgement passed, their lives AND ‘entitlements’ are on hold.

Allowing time for local law enforcment to perform a proper investigation i can understand the sensitivity toward the acused. If convicted this will ruin all their lives. **No one** wants a young person to start their adult life in prison.

Based on the personal photos, apparently pulled off their Facebook accounts or where ever, are the Watchdogs insinuating that they’re ‘thugs’ and ‘miscreants’ (minor and armes). Sensing a little pre-judgement there…

I am sorry for my remarks and if I could delete them I would please do not take any offense it’s just my opinion and i should of never put it on here.So Maria i am sorry ! Sometimes we don’t think about what we say and how it can effect other people and their lives.

It’s about time these individuals were arrested. People have been living in fear in Kansas and surrounding areas for weeks now while they were free to roam the streets, graduate from high school with smiles on their faces, were given awards at end of seasons sports banquets,(after they committed the crimes) and were able to go about their lives. I can’t help but wonder how they slept at night the past 4 weeks. Did they really think they were going to get away with these crimes? Were they not taught right from wrong from their parents? And where are the parents while all this is happening? What is this country coming to? It makes me sick to think that any of these individuals will get off without serving any prison time.