Illinois (ECWd-)
Today the General Assembly debated SB1966, which we first wrote on in this article.
This debate was spirited, to say the least.
The Chief Sponsor was either confused or intentionally misleading regarding transfer attempts and what happens to those guns if the future buyer is unable to pass the mandatory background checks. The Sponsor claimed that if that person did not qualify for the purchase, the guns were to be given back to the seller, which is not what the bill says. In fact, the bill would require the seller to first go through yet another background check in order to get their own gun back from the dealer holding it. Additionally, that dealer holding those guns for transfer is required to turn over those guns to law enforcement in 24 hours, contrary to her claim that was not true, if the seller’s background check fails, which can happen with a simple glitch in the system.
More importantly, requiring law-abiding citizens to provide fingerprints in order to exercise their 2nd Amendment tramples on that right as well as their 4th and 5th Amendment rights. As outlined during the floor debate, those very fingerprints will be provided to the ISP and the FBI and be accessible for the solving of other crimes. While I support the solving of crimes, a person who is forced to provide fingerprints to exercise their Constitutional Right should not have those prints be used as potential evidence in another crime. The 5th Amendment comes to mind in those cases.
Even though this bill has now passed out of the House and will surely pass out of the Senate, rest assured it will end up in the courts like so many other bills in Illinois.
The bill passed 62-52.
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10 Comments
twisten1up4u
Posted at 20:53h, 01 JuneWhat part of well regulated don’t you people understand?
Cindy
Posted at 08:05h, 31 MayWhat planet are you from, jannie?
suck in il
Posted at 22:58h, 30 MayNeed to go after people breaking the law. Those that follow the law are not the problem. Go after the outlaws.
A. Lincoln
Posted at 20:04h, 29 MayThis lawlessness and silliness is, ipso facto, one of the reasons the Founders drafted, promoted and caused the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment, to be passed. Fortunately, we have McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. (4 Wheat.) 316 (1819), which is the seminal case giving primacy to the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights AND federal law, over state law. Let’s just hope the District Court Judge in the first law suit issues an injunction to stay enforcement of this Draconian, unconstitutional and needlessly punitive legislation until the Supreme Court can act.
Poll Taxes and Literacy Tests come to mind when reading this supposedly 21st Century Illinois (Land of Lincoln) law.
Great articles, Kirk. Keep ‘em comin’.
Tracey Baker
Posted at 20:01h, 29 MayYet heaven forbid we require a simple ID to vote in Illinois let alone the Country.
Dave
Posted at 16:45h, 29 MayIllinois is fast becoming a police state…. its time for 200,000 people to march around the state capital
Dave
Posted at 16:43h, 29 MayI hope someone sues, fingerprinting violates our 4th amendment rights. Illinois has become a police state. The Illinois constitution says one purpose of government is to secure our rights, yet the organized crime democrat controlled state legislature STOMPS ON OUR CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS.
james oconnor
Posted at 16:14h, 29 MayFour years in a row I marched the streets of Springfield for the right to carry. Not for me but for women. I believe that women should be allowed/able to protect themselves ALWAYS! And now this crap is put on their backs. No reason to remain in Illinois. One step forward two steps back. Sorry ladies I did what I could.
jannie
Posted at 16:03h, 29 MayI don’t understand what the big deal is – if you’re a criminal and stupid enough to purchase a gun when you know you’ll be fingerprinted tough luck if you get caught.
Mike t
Posted at 19:11h, 01 JuneThe criminal is not going to buy a gun from a dealer. They are going to buy it from a democrat.