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June 22, 2024

Shelby County – OK For Me, Not For Thee

By Kirk Allen & John Kraft

On February 12, 2022

Shelby Co. (ECWd) –

The Shelby County Board meeting had several speakers during public comment however one in particular drives home one of the very points we have been making for years.  Public sector employees and elected officials believe critical thinking is only permitted if you are an attorney.  This theme always comes up when the people start demanding answers from their government.

According to Kayla Garman, a non-lawyer of the Shelby County State’s Attorney’s office, it’s OK for her to point to the law and say what is or is not legal but apparently not for anyone else unless they go to law school.

“Or you don’t like that Rick Stewart was appointed. Well, I’m sorry that you don’t like it but you can do it, why can you do it, because the law says that you can.

“If you want to give your legal opinion, go to law school”

How special that a person who is not an attorney can give her legal opinion and after doing so tell the citizenry if they want to give theirs they need to go to law school.  Are we the only ones that see the hypocrisy in her comments? Condescending would be an understatement at best.

We continue to see public sector employees and officials push a narrative that basically people are too stupid to understand the law and that we should leave that to the lawyers. Shelby County Board member David Swits did much the same thing when a board member simply read from an Attorney General Opinion and Case law.  He wanted to know if the board member had graduated from law school or had a law degree.

Garman properly pointed out that I was not an attorney when I chuckled at her comments.  Had she been willing to have an actual discussion she would have learned why her comment on this issue is so funny to me and worthy of the chuckle.  I was not an attorney when I won my FOIA lawsuit pro se against the Attorney General.  I stood before a judge and exercised my right to represent myself and that required me to understand the law and apply it.  I did so for about 4 hours and the result, I won my case and proved the lawyer wrong.  When I filed that case, people said, you’re not an attorney or you can’t do that, or you cant win.

History is filled with critical thinkers who are more than capable of reading and comprehending laws written by our legislature, of which many are not attorney’s

History is where I will default to on this topic.

Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, 25 were lawyers — merchant and plantation owner were other popular occupations of our founding fathers.

Of the 55 framers of the Constitution, 32 were lawyers.

Anytime a person implies that you are not allowed to offer your perspective or opinion of the law, they are basically calling you stupid in our opinion.

The videos are set to begin at the time Garman made the comments quoted above.


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  • David Somerset
    Posted at 10:47h, 12 February Reply

    Well done is better than well said.”
    – Poor Richard’s Almanack, 1737

  • Robert O Bogue
    Posted at 04:03h, 13 February Reply

    It’s the message not the messenger (XXXXXX)? Public session, allows all attendees the opportunity to exercise the constutional right of free speech, arguably, the most important part of every public meeting.
    The term, “outsiders” was heard, as was the poking of fun for another’s opinion. What do you suppose that really means?
    Those that don’t see things your way? Perhaps even those that don’t travel in your social circle or live locally? Sure.
    But, it also means, there are others observing the folly, the corruption and out right determined ignorance of some and willing to offer enlightenment.
    The next time residents of Shelby County ask the Feds for funding anything or for federal support in anyway, they should remember, it’s the outsiders hauling the freight on most projects, not the local taxpayers.
    It’s the outsiders that come into your community as lawyers, judges, teachers, doctors, contractors and more.. Think about it. Outsiders.
    Outsiders should be welcomed for offering differing points of view, knowledge and truth. They’re the ones shining the light into the darkness, and doing so without the wrongful constraint of local influence driven by sanctimonious hypocrites.

  • Robert O Bogue
    Posted at 08:15h, 14 February Reply

    Definition: Sanctimonious hypocrite…..Kayla Garman.
    Definition: Outsider.
    1) One whom does not reside in the immediate area, who is not a member of a local sect, clan or social circle and who attends a public meeting, who exercises their right to speak in a public session and one that contributes knowledge to where there is little.. One who cannot be coerced by local influences to do wrong.
    2) Outsiders, teachers, bankers, factory workers, delivery personnel, doctors, nurses and others who were not born in the immediate area, are not a member of a particular social circle and nor subject to the influences of local tribal leaders.
    3) Outsiders, taxpayers living in other regions and in other states that send their tax dollars in support of the local clan for projects they cannot otherwise afford when requested by local clan leaders.

  • Nicholas Dale
    Posted at 13:57h, 12 March Reply

    Most law schools are owned by the state government of where they are located, unless it’s a private school. That means the government makes tax dollars off of the students paying the school for their education. As well as tax dollars off of the students normal living expenses. It’s a conflict of interest for our public officials to shame pro se litigants and advertise that they should attend law school. Is the real motives behind their shaming to make money?

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