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Illinois – Basic logic ignored

By Kirk Allen & John Kraft

On April 23, 2020

Illinois (ECWd) –

The current state of emergency declared by Governor JB Pritzker on March 9th has gone well beyond the 30-day limit set by law.

“Upon such proclamation, the Governor shall have and may exercise for a period not to exceed 30 days the following emergency powers;” 20 ILCS 3305/7

Considering this is Illinois where political figures historically, especially Governors, have little regard for the law, the fact remains the law is to be applied as written.

While the limits set by law are being ignored, people’s lives are being turned on their head, unless of course you’re a government worker or those protected by “act of God” clauses in their contract that ensures they continue to get paid.  Those in the private sector are not so fortunate and are facing financial ruin.

I have always believed common sense or basic logic is not so common for politicians.  Illinois Governor Pritzker and whoever is advising him has strengthened that belief.

All indications point to the highly populated areas as the ones where shelter in place “suggestions” make sense.  However it does not take a medical specialist to figure out after 40 days of such emergency rules you should not treat rural areas the exact same as those densely populated, but that is what the Governor is doing.

Illinois, as of this publication, has 6 counties that have yet to have a single case of COVID-19 according to the Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH).

  • Edgar County
  • Putnam County
  • Brown County
  • Scott County
  • Edwards County
  • Pope County

With 6 Counties having been basically locked down for well beyond the alleged incubation rate of the virus, why not suspend the rules imposed for those counties as a baby step to opening up this state?  Those same counties could be closely monitored for potential outbreaks and give valuable data to further assess the next move for the rest of the state.  As it stands, we find no medical or legal justification to keep those counties locked down under the same emergency rules as the rest of this state.

With 102 Counties in the state, sixty of them have less than twenty cases of COVID-19 identified as of this publication.  Of those sixty counties, forty-five have 10 cases or less identified of which many of those have already recovered.  We have hospitals with no COVID-19 patients in many parts of the state yet they also have restricted health care services to those who need it.

With so few numbers and little to no evidence of a pandemic level outbreak in those counties, we ask the same question.  What medical or legal justification is there to keep those counties locked down under the same emergency rules as the rest of this state?

While we understand the challenges in the higher populated area of the state, those areas must not dictate how the rest of the state is managed during this emergency.

Of the 35,108 positive cases in Illinois as of today’s publication, IDPH reports that 24,546 of those are in Chicago and Cook County combined.  That accounts for approximately 70% of the cases in Illinois.  When you include the collar counties of Lake, DuPage, Kane, and Will County, 6,910 cases are added to that number.  This equates to 5 counties having a total of 31,456 positive cases, which is approximately 90% of the cases in Illinois.

Of interest, the state has refused to publish actual recovery rates, a figure that would help to make appropriate determinations on getting this state back in business.

We urge the Governor to recognize you don’t treat a patient (‘county’) for a sickness when they don’t have it, nor do you treat those with minimal signs of sickness the same as those highly infected.

In light of Pritzker’s extending his declared “state” of emergency through May 31st, 2020, we suspect Illinois courts will start seeing filings similar to those taking place in other states as it appears people’s rights are being trampled, especially in counties yet to have a single case.

In closing, we ask that the Governor provide the citizens with the actual plan for opening up Illinois so that people can get back to work and provide for their families.  The first step in doing that is to lift the orders for counties with zero case or even 10 or less.

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  • Cindy Lamb Basham
    Posted at 16:38h, 23 April Reply

    He’s killing the Illinois economy and taking away our freedom.

  • Dave
    Posted at 16:50h, 23 April Reply

    Don’t you know, when democrats from the NE corner of the state get elected the law doesn’t apply to them

  • Kirk Allen
    Posted at 17:42h, 23 April Reply

    Once again we called it! Representative Baily just filed suit against the Governor!

    • Rickstir
      Posted at 18:31h, 23 April Reply

      Great decision Rep. Bailey

  • A.Lincoln
    Posted at 18:08h, 23 April Reply

    Any legal citizen of Illinois has standing (e.g. the minority leader of the Illinois House of Representatives might be a good choice as plaintiff) to file a lawsuit to stay Illinois Governor Pritzker’s order of 4-23-20 continuing the current draconian Stay-At-Home orders until 5-31-20. For the jurisdiction requirement a lawsuit could be filed in an Illinois Federal District Court alleging violations of Illinois citizens’ rights under the Fifth Amendment (Liberty, Property), Eighth Amendment (cruel and unusual punishment), Tenth Amendment (powers reserved to the people) and Fourteenth Amendment (all of Section 1). There are other Federal and State civil and maybe criminal violations of Illinois citizens’ rights that could be alleged that I haven’t thought of. A good example is the Illinois statute 30 day rule violation Kirk Allen cited above.

    Illinois state courts are not the correct venue for many reasons. The citizens of Illinois need immediate relief only a federal court could dispense in a timely manner. A state governor is violating his own state’s laws, citizen’s rights and enforcing/not enforcing others in an inconsistent manner. Illinois Government is demonstrably one of the most corrupt states in the Union and Illinois state courts are part of that problem.

    Attorneys General William Barr very recently said the Department of Justice is looking closely at what some governors are doing to deprive some states’ citizens of basic rights under the federal Constitution and laws.

    Hopefully a lawsuit will be filed and/or the U.S. Department of Justice acts. And very soon.

    • king
      Posted at 10:22h, 28 April Reply

      (Edited by Moderator)jobs . If I could bust your (Edited by Moderator) out(what’s left of them) i would

  • Dave (not the Dave above)
    Posted at 18:18h, 23 April Reply

    So livid at these politicians. I’m lucky to be receiving a paycheck and able to work, but those who can’t because some fat rich moron decided he’s more important than the US Constitution….Arrrrgg! (not the pirate type arrgg). Just so livid.

  • PK
    Posted at 18:56h, 23 April Reply

    For the press and internet livestream, Governor Pritzker touts medical science and other research data during his daily press conferences. All for which the patient recovery data would be especially well served. Evidently, the Executive Office of the Illinois Governor being closed to patient recovery data are necessary to a political science only. So it could be that Pritzker is actually tone deaf to some of his front line advisors.

  • Dave - not the above Dave
    Posted at 19:02h, 23 April Reply

    Pritzker is a moron. As if the state wasn’t in bad enough shape, he is going to use all of Illinois in some political statement. Moron.
    Anybody ever hear of the U S Constitution? How about Ben Franklin and his statement of giving up liberties for safety. Look it up.

  • Gracie
    Posted at 19:46h, 23 April Reply

    This is a must read! Written by Wisconsin
    State Senator Van Wanggard their Governor.
    Every Govenor should be held accountable to answer these questions for his or her state.

    • PK
      Posted at 11:39h, 24 April Reply

      Each of the 22 points of inquiry seem valid.

      I also did not know that 40 state parks in Wisconsin were closed. Checking on that item means 52% have remained open.

  • Joseph Bianchi
    Posted at 20:15h, 23 April Reply

    Has anyone filed a lawsuit or injunction limiting his power? He has obviously overstepped his authority and he needs to be reigned in. Im willing to put up the money to fight this guy. If anyone knows of a constitutional lawyer willing to take this on please reply. I have been calling law offices to see if anyone has filed suit but haven’t found anyone.

    • Kirk Allen
      Posted at 20:51h, 23 April Reply

      One suit filed in Clay County by Representative Bailey and I just got word several others are to be filed tomarrow in the northern suburbs.

      • Joseph Bianchi
        Posted at 21:04h, 23 April Reply

        I just liked him on FB. A man of courage. I am willing to do whatever it takes to get this economy going again. JB is going to try and get all of us eating government cheese. To hell with that. We must have the freedom to open our businesses and get this economy going.
        “Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

        • Mags
          Posted at 08:42h, 24 April Reply

          Agree 100% – some of these governors (Pritzker being one of the worst ) are drunk on Power. I hope these businesses have been contacting Lawyers, although many of them currently have been financially devastated and are just trying to stay afloat. Many could be having some difficulty finding lawyers, especially in the collar counties of Chicago, due to the fact that many of the lawyers are in the CLUB. It might be worth it to find a lawyer in a neighboring state who is licensed to practice here in Illinois. God Bless Darren Bailey and his attorneys. I will be sending him a note of gratitude and asking my representative why she is AWOL on this. I do hope we see more lawsuits in the coming days.

        • Victoria
          Posted at 11:11h, 24 April Reply

          We need to find lawyers who are willing to file class action suits because people cannot afford to do this individually and we should be coming together as one and not approaching this individually. United We Stand – Divided We Fall

    • Victoria
      Posted at 11:08h, 24 April Reply

      I was just asking that very question to find out what needs to be done to start the impeachment process against him. He needs to be removed from office and his election repealed.

  • Charles
    Posted at 06:06h, 24 April Reply

    Thank you JB Pritzker for listening to science and not these fools that want to put thousands of bodies in the ground because they don’t feel like they want to listen to the facts.

    • Kirk Allen
      Posted at 08:34h, 24 April Reply
      • Victoria
        Posted at 11:06h, 24 April Reply

        Correct. It is not science but political abuse to control our lives and violate our rights.

    • PK
      Posted at 11:23h, 24 April Reply

      I’ve a non-political science degree and a depth of understanding for research methods. Not capturing recoveries and recovery rates erodes credibility. Not disseminated recoveries and recovery rates flies in the face of medical science. Think not for yourself you must, I guess. The foolhardy…the haphazard…the lackadaisical make “factual” claims about others’ ignorance.

      • king
        Posted at 10:21h, 28 April Reply

        shut the (Edited by Moderator)

    • Brian Berry
      Posted at 07:03h, 26 April Reply

      Less than 2% who contract the disease die from it. So the question really is, are we ruining the economy and people’s lives to keep people from getting sick?

  • Ralph Heineke
    Posted at 07:43h, 24 April Reply

    One could always inject ultraviolet light or disinfectant to rid oneself of COVID-19 quicker.

    • Victiria
      Posted at 11:03h, 24 April Reply

      He never said inject disinfectant and the ultraviolet lights are already in use through out America to kill the TB disease and other viruses in the air.

      • Toni Watkins
        Posted at 18:06h, 24 April Reply

        Yes, I heard him say to inject BOTH into the body, I know what he said and it has been repeated numerous times on the TV today, now he wants to say he was being sarcastic, uhh, no he wash’t he was serious! What damage has he done to young people who heard him say this? This was absolutely stunning to hear him say, and if I didn’t hear it myself I would not of believed it until I heard it myself……

        • jmkraft
          Posted at 19:14h, 24 April Reply

          What would be absolutely stunning would be people actually injecting bleach and cleaning against into their bodies. Are people really that stupid? Nevermind…I just thought of the Tide Pods after I wrote that.

          Toni, what you failed to mention, is that he said that as a question posed to the people standing next to him – but the MSM never shows the first part of it showing him saying that as a question to those next to him.

        • Brian Berry
          Posted at 07:06h, 26 April Reply

          You did not hear that. Listen to the entire news conference

      • Rebecca, RN
        Posted at 12:49h, 28 April Reply

        IN THE AIR! ultraviolet light is very harmful to the skin and body in direct and elevated concentrations. Jesus people, this is medicine! So many people out there who stayed at a holiday inn once think they suddenly have their MD! WTF!

    • king
      Posted at 10:19h, 28 April Reply

      I wish all covid deniers would just have one big glass and see where we stand on opening up in a few days….lol

  • Sam
    Posted at 07:53h, 24 April Reply

    Say he would open up counties with no case, how do you keep people from neighboring counties from going to dinner, shopping, or people who “think” they are asymptotic from Chicago coming down and visiting, staying in a hotel. He can’t patrol every back country road, then there would be a resurgent of cases and we would need to start all over again.

    • Kirk Allen
      Posted at 08:34h, 24 April Reply

      Seriously? Have you read the law on the powers he has? He can establish ingress and egress limitations. Stop those infected areas from travel? I suggest you listen to real experts.

      • Michael
        Posted at 09:59h, 24 April Reply

        @Kirk, are you advocating border patrols at every county line border? Because I promise you if a hair salon opens up in one county, people will travel from miles around to get their hair done… that uninfected county would have a rash of infections.

      • Procrastineer
        Posted at 19:15h, 24 April Reply

        Go job answering the question asked and not diverting to a different subject.

    • Thomas
      Posted at 10:25h, 24 April Reply

      I live in one of counties” unaffected” areas there isn’t much to do. We go to the areas where it(covid) is to shop and dine.

    • Ed
      Posted at 12:03h, 24 April Reply

      Baaaa!!! Baaaa!

  • Aaron
    Posted at 08:30h, 24 April Reply

    Right now if you die of a shark attack and test positive they add you to the Covid tally

    • Ed
      Posted at 09:57h, 25 April Reply

      If you get shot in the head resulting in the loss of half your brain but you test positive for covid your cause of death will be listed as covid. Like they could have saved your life if it wasn’t for covid 19.

    • king
      Posted at 10:17h, 28 April Reply

      Stop (Edited by Moderator)spreading false info. They see inky grouping tbose as covid deaths that have similar symptoms. How(Edited by Moderator)are you people…actually I already know how stupid you are. Look who’s in charge of our country.

  • Evert Evertsen
    Posted at 09:15h, 24 April Reply

    Something to think about as you read this post:
    USA % of global population = 4.31 %.
    USA % of reported deaths due to Covid-19 = 26.18 %
    USA % of reported cases of Covid-19 = 32.28 %

    Newsom’s CHP has shut down public protests in CA on State property, will Illinois follow?

    • Kirk Allen
      Posted at 09:24h, 24 April Reply

      Got a link to the source of that info?

    • Tk
      Posted at 10:08h, 24 April Reply

      Key word “reported” THINK about that when you read statisticts.

  • Golden Country
    Posted at 09:49h, 24 April Reply

    Hasn’t his authority given to him under the Emergency Act Expired or did the legislature extend it? Otherwise everything he is proposing and the tickets individuals are receiving are not enforceable in court.

  • Skip
    Posted at 10:18h, 24 April Reply

    The total Covid19 death count in Illinois today (04/24/2020) is 1688.
    The City of Chicago, Cook County and the collar counties comprise the majority of Covid19 deaths in Illinois: (Lake County – 100; McHenry Co – 26; Kane Co – 39; DuPage Co – 118; Will Co – 119; Cook Co – 501; Chicago City – 641)
    These Chicago area deaths total 1544. Do the math. 1544 divided by 1688 equals 91.46% of Illinois Covid-19 deaths occur in the Chicago region.

  • Sal Tessio
    Posted at 11:17h, 24 April Reply

    Given the prevalence of the virus in surrounding counties, I strongly suspect that the lack of confirmed cases in Edgar County is more a factor of lack of testing than lack of infection. However, it also suggests that there have been no serious cases, elsewise, there wouid have been testing. As far as Representative Bailey’s lawsuit making any headway, don’t hold your breath. (Insert COVID joke in poor taste here).

  • Golden Country
    Posted at 20:49h, 24 April Reply

    Excellent summary by the 2 physicians in the above face book link. They nailed it

    This is about control and not as much about a deadly disease.

    There is a protest being planned for May 1st at the state capitol and I will be attending.

  • GW One
    Posted at 16:46h, 01 May Reply

    Since when can any Governor deny Citizens their right to worship in a church or otherwise assemble freely? These are sacred, protected Rights. Governor Pritzker you have yourself in a real pinch. Most Illinois Citizens will no longer bend a knee at the expense of their protected Constitutional Rights furloughed, diminished or dismissed by JBP. Now he has dug a ditch, hoping all his critics will jump in. Won’t happen Governor. See you in court.

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