Illinois (ECWd) –
Illinois Governor Pritzker might be well advised to find new legal counsel, unless this was intentional, as it appears his upcoming Executive Order taking effect May 1st, 2020 does one of two things.
- Strips a gun owner of his rights while complying with the Executive Order to wear a mask, or
- makes them a criminal if they exercise their gun rights while complying with the Executive Order to wear a mask.
Proposed May 1, 2020, Executive Order
“Wearing a face covering in public places or when working. Any individual who is over age two and able to medically tolerate a face-covering (a mask or cloth face- covering) shall be required to cover their nose and mouth with a face-covering when in a public place and unable to maintain a six-foot social distance. Face-coverings are required in public indoor spaces such as stores.”
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(9) Carries or possesses in a vehicle or on or about his or her person any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or firearm or ballistic knife, when he or she is hooded, robed or masked in such manner as to conceal his or her identity; (this violation is a Class 4 Felony)
Considering a mask that covers the mouth and nose will clearly conceal a person’s identity, those people complying with the Executive Order by wearing a mask while also exercising their right to bear arms, both under the State Constitution, US Constitution, and Illinois Firearms and Concealed Carry laws would be violating the criminal code.
This is yet another example of a political figure invoking rules upon citizens with little to no regard for their constitutionally protected rights.
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81 Comments
Saul
Posted at 22:20h, 18 MayFat pig Pritzker. Can the Pritzker family just go away. I do no use Hyatt hotels. These out of touch billionaires just f everything up constantly. Jamie Gurlick wrote a memo building a wall between fbi and CIA—what happed? 3000+ died and SHE investigated herself!
Cuomo? Sends the suck to nursing homes. Exempts himself from investigation by appointing his crooked AG. He killed 5000.
I can go all day! Was this witty?
Kirk Allen
Posted at 08:06h, 03 MayClearly you have not seen the response from the ISP and how they very carefuly left the barn door open on this matter. While I believe they could never get a conviction, I do believe and know rouge cops that would arrest certain people just to make their life miserable. And YES, a mask covering your mouth, nose, cheeks, does hide your identity.
Lex
Posted at 03:32h, 03 May“Is anyone working on filing a law suit.” No. Why? Because no one is going to get arrested for this – unless they are being stupid and trying to “test” the law by wearing some clown mask while armed. Your face consist of eyes, nose, forehead, mouth, cheeks, and entire surrounding texture of head. Wearing a mouth and nose protector is NOT a mask to hide your identity.
First, you aren’t wearing a mask to hide your identity. No intent.
Second, you aren’t hiding your identity. Your nose and mouth alone do not make up your face.
Third, read the plain purpose of the statute – HIDING YOUR IDENTITY. You are NOT hiding your identity. Now, as I mentioned earlier, you’re going to have some imbecile who will try to push the boundaries and will wear a mask and arm himself – and claim he is doing it to “protect himself from the virus.”
Green Energy
Posted at 13:14h, 30 AprilHere is a guy in Pritzker,who never had a real job, never worked a day in his life simply holding the citizens of this state as hostages. The real goal here is to extort more money from the Federal Gov to pay for the mismanagement and corruption Illinois has endured for decades. You see the talk in D.C. of additional funds to bail out states near bankruptcy. What better method to achieve this than to destroy Illinois’ economy and keep it under water. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pritzker extended these authoritarian orders indefinitely. I hope not one more penny is sent out as bailout funds. For those most vulnerable, take all the precautions necessary to keep YOURSELF healthy. For the 80% of us who are healthy, buck these foolish decrees. I haven’t changed my behavior at all. And I won’t be wearing a mask. This over-hyped madness has to stop!
HT
Posted at 14:25h, 30 AprilWow, you’re probably the only other person beside me that can see why IL and other failing states are leveraging off of this virus to extort federal money to pay for their social agendas. Their daily speeches clearly point to that, but for some reasons, most Americans have no clue how to parse their rhetoric. Have America become so soft and complacent that we no longer know how beautiful our Constitution is and how unique it is?
To add salt to injury, having an obnoxiously unhealthy pig like JB, who is a candidate for a ventilator, preach and lie how he’s protecting us and saving our lives, is just too funny. In fact, just look at the Chicago daily press briefings, they’re ALL candidates for ventilators, and they should all be tested and quarantined. Why aren’t more people or the media noticing this?
Even when a lone reporter yesterday inquired why JB’s wife traveled to FL, he basically brushed off w/o any response.
Also, he keeps refusing to provide any data to back up his reason for extending the EO, refusing to disclose the number of recovered cases, and vaguely referring to data coming from NW University.
Has no one noticed that his family endowed that school with hundreds of millions a few years back? Can you imagine his office calling NWU asking for support data to use for his EO, would any faculty or scientists there insist on providing only significant statistical data? NWU would fire those folks in less than a heartbeat.
PK
Posted at 14:33h, 30 AprilJunk by way of “I haven’t changed my behavior at all.”
Sarge
Posted at 17:52h, 27 AprilIf sunlight kills the virus in 90 seconds, why aren’t we asked to sunbathe in the nude?
Tai
Posted at 17:43h, 27 AprilThis argument is so dumb… the governor is not trying to take away gun rights. 1. The mask is a suggestion. 2. You are not allowed to have carry a gun in the places where the mask suggestion applies to anyway. 3. According to the highlighted section you can’t be hooded or a “robed” either, soooo how come no one was making a big deal about this before the mask suggestion?
GORDON BOURG
Posted at 14:49h, 28 AprilTai? What kind of name is that? Doesn’t sound American to me so STFU .
Matthew D Jones
Posted at 15:24h, 28 AprilWhat? What does his name have to do with anything. Also, Bourg is not American so you lose your own arguement. Second, can you not formulate an intellectual response? If not, then you should take your own advise and STFU
Tai
Posted at 12:44h, 29 AprilThx Matthew, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Also Gordon, if you must know, not only am I am American, I am the daughter of an American farmer. I grew up learning how to work hard, appreciate what you have, the consequences of being selfish and expecting that things are not always going to work out the way I want. I also grew up working in an American, family owned, female operated restaurant. Along with a multitude of other skills, that taught me the importance of effective communication, team work and patience. All of these skills are what helps me when I encounter people like you.
Sarah
Posted at 15:29h, 28 AprilA Democrat is not trying to take away gun rights? What planet do you live on, and are there any nice yet affordable condos for sale?
Me
Posted at 19:28h, 29 AprilWhat you fail to understand is this is a question of a governor forcing a specific part of his state’s population to give up God given rights. This will only effect law abiding citizens not the criminals who don’t care anyway. This is a corrupt system taking away more rights of the law abiding under the ruse of public safety. Which is a lie considering we have yet to hit the number of infected or dead that the regular old flu effected this year. Wake up and check all facts.
Tai
Posted at 12:54h, 30 AprilI think what you fail to understand is that the advice to wear a mask is a suggestion, not a law. There is no forcing of any kind, it is a request for cooperation to do what we can to stop spreading this illness.
In the 2016-2017 flue season there was 61,000 flu-related deaths.
In the 2017-2018 flu season there was 34,200 flu-related deaths.
As of today there have been 61,288 covid related deaths. You should also keep in mind that we have only been counting covid related deaths for 6-8 weeks now, sooo I’m no math wiz but that means there will likely be a lot more covid related deaths than there are for the flu. It seems like maybe you don’t have your facts in order?
There is no good reason for people to be deliberately uncooperative on such a small request. If everyone truly wanted to get things up and running, everyone would be willing to do any small thing they can to help out.
If you could give me an example of someone legally carrying a concealed weapon, that was arrested because they were wearing a mask in cooperation with this request, then I will be right there with you during the uprising.
Sarah
Posted at 13:31h, 30 AprilIf you want an example of someone legally carrying and being arrested for wearing a mask, wait a few days.
As for fantastic reasons not to wear a mask:
A.) Not a coward
B.) Not a criminal
C.) Not a woman of the Islamic faith
D.) Not a surgeon about to do surgery on a patient
E.) Not feeling the need to virtue signal and buy into the fear hype
F.) Am an asthmatic with already restricted airways.
G.) Group activities aren’t really my thing.
H.) Like my freedoms and the Constitution guarantees them.
I.) Don’t adhere to the decrees of either wannabee or real monarchs and dictators
J.) Already beat way more scary illnesses than the Wu Flu
K.) Masks reduce oxygen flow and lack of oxygen kills brain cells.
Also, two additional thoughts for you:
1.) Appeal to Fear is a logical fallacy. Fear shuts off your frontal lobe (the place where you do your higher level reasoning, assuming you didn’t obliterate it by somehow reducing your oxygen flow) and makes you stupid by invoking your fight or flight reflex.
2.) If what the governor is making is really just a suggestion or request, why is it going to be enforced by the Illinois State Police?
Tai
Posted at 13:52h, 30 AprilAgain – it. is. not. a. law.
So if you don’t want to wear a mask – you. don’t. have. to
From what you just wrote it sounds YOU are trying to use “what if’s” and fear in your weak, ridiculous attempt to prove your point. Isn’t that what you are accusing the governor of doing….? Huh?
On the part about a mask reducing your oxygen intake… so that would mean that doctors, construction workers, farmers (the list goes on and on) are losing brain cells on a daily basis from lack of oxygen…? Lol, ok. I’m guessing you are against winter scarves to lol.
I will look forward to reading your lawsuits, it might be hard to get a judge to hear you cases though. Typically something actually has to happen to you before they will spend time hearing “your side” of the “story”.
Every comment in this thread is weak, boring and predictable, good luck with all of your future attempts at whatever you are calling this.
Sarah
Posted at 14:12h, 30 AprilWell, here is an article from New York Post (for those of you who wisely don’t click on links in online comments, you can find the article by Googling “man passes out from lack of oxygen while driving”)
https://nypost.com/2020/04/24/driver-crashes-car-after-passing-out-from-wearing-n95-mask/
Yes, I agree with you it is not a law. It is merely a suggestion that is going to be enforced by the Illinois State Police. See? Not a law. Why are you harping on this?
If these comments are so boring, why are you reading them?
Also, you are the first person who has ever been afraid of anything I have ever said. I can’t tell you how hard I have worked to convince people that I am in face a very mean and scary person. Finally someone recognizes my true potential! You have made my day! Many thanks!
HT
Posted at 14:42h, 30 AprilWe all know it’s not a law, but that doesn’t stop them from dialing up the fear by threatening police arrest. An alderwoman in my ward was interviewed last week by ABC, where she was so excited about enforcement to wearing masks, and even blurted out that she’d “rather ban running” so that runners can’t spread the virus while they breathe heavily from running. This evil woman even went as far as using the Czech Republic as an example for us to follow, because over there, it’s wonderful that the government can arrest and fine people for not wearing masks.
Then of course, after the fear tactics and the wish for a socialist state didn’t seem to work, as most people ignore the fences around the lakefront anyway, these leftists resort to invoking God as a way to manipulate people into compliance. That’s funny, since these leftists, who actually cheered when JB allowed late term abortion, are as Godless as anyone can get.
PK
Posted at 16:58h, 30 AprilHow many other state governments’ COVID-19 response includes closing ALL state parks for any and ALL activity? Of the states bordering Illinois, which aimed to provide a least restrictive environment for access to state parks in response to the COVID-19 outbreak?
Christine M.Jones
Posted at 23:16h, 18 MayWearing the mask is a suggestion??
Walked into Menard’s,a sign stated if you
do not have a mask,you must pay $1.50
at the service desk,for one to wear,while
you shop.
Sounds like more than a “suggestion”.
Mike38
Posted at 11:11h, 17 MayTai wrote: ” You are not allowed to have carry a gun in the places where the mask suggestion applies to anyway.” My reply: My local WalMart, Home Depot and Menards are not letting anyone in the door without a mask. I carry, and I carry in those places. So you are incorrect.
Mike McKenzie
Posted at 17:37h, 27 AprilWhat is the penalty for not wearing a mask ?
Sarah
Posted at 21:00h, 27 AprilYou get the honor of duking it out in court, unless I beat you to it. But, you or I would win. This is a clear violation of basic freedoms. The governor can’t dictate what people do or do not wear. Also, the more people who do not comply, the easier a time all of us who will not comply will have. they cannot get us all which means they cannot get any of us in the long run.
Ron Holt (@rdjh140)
Posted at 10:36h, 28 AprilYou are allowed to conceal carry in stores unless posted otherwise, and you can carry while wearing a hooded sweatshirt or jacket. He is, along with his fellow democrats, trying to take away our second amendment rights. Every gun owner I talk to say they will never give up their firearms under any circumstances.
Jerry Davis
Posted at 12:45h, 27 Aprilthen lets start with arresting his body guards and hold jp responsible lock his ass up
SPUT D DOGG
Posted at 11:22h, 27 Aprildoes any one really think that this DEAL was not MAN MADE and MAN DELIVERED??
Ghil R. Reese
Posted at 19:57h, 27 Aprilhas democrat all over it
Sarah
Posted at 09:17h, 27 AprilFYI:
Reopen American peaceful protest!
Meet at all state Capital buildings and at your governors offices and drive around honking and waving your flags!
Stay peaceful stay safe!
Organizer:Occupy Truth Operative
Event Website:https://www.facebook.com/events/227376418363115/
Date of Event:Friday, 1 May, 2020
Time of Event:8 AM CDT
Address:Illinois Governor’s Mansion, 410 East Jackson Street, Springfield, Illinois 62701
City:Springfield, Illinois
Sarah
Posted at 09:05h, 27 AprilI am not going to take health advice from a dude who looks like he weights over 300 pounds and thinks the gym in non-essential.
Dean
Posted at 11:42h, 27 April300 ?? You have to be kidding ! This slob is one slice of deep dish away from a coronary
Sarah
Posted at 21:05h, 27 AprilWell, I was trying to be nice. I didn’t want to offend the deep dish pizza by making it feel unhealthy….
On the plus side, when the state’s economy crashes and there’s zero food anywhere, all we need to remember to do is show up at the governor’s mansion, since it is clear he has enough to sustain most of the country for at least the next several years.
Tony
Posted at 09:01h, 27 AprilOk back to the original statement. The “Simple Fact” is that the Executive Branch “CANNOT” issue an E.O. that “KNOWINGLY” causes you to violate an ILCS put in place by the Legislative Branch without the Judicial Branch signing off on the original Court Order to put the aforementioned ILCS into Law or the Legal FOID Toting Citizens of the State of Illinois will be allowed the Right to Open Carry
Kirk Allen
Posted at 09:39h, 27 AprilCourt orders do no put ILCS into law. The Executive Branch CAN do what they did, but just because they did it does not mean it is legal.
Nick
Posted at 07:34h, 27 AprilJB is a piece of shit and a terrible governor. But do you really think he is making everyone wear masks just to infringe in 2A rights. It’s a buried clause in one law that had nothing to do with his decision. Honestly, if you think it was intentional you’re no better than the libtards that are trying to say Trump wants us to inject Lysol…people need to think. It’s a sad time in 2020.
jmkraft
Posted at 09:13h, 27 AprilWe never said we thought it was intentional, only stated the fact that it would violate current gun laws.
glenn farmer
Posted at 04:31h, 27 Aprilwill he be required to wear mask as he is robbing us blind
Ricky Wingerter
Posted at 20:17h, 26 AprilHe cannot make you wear the mask he is infringing on your rights to require you to do so . He doesn’t have the power to enforce this and no law enforcement office will do it either.
>Jay B
Posted at 19:11h, 26 AprilIs this fat guy the one with 36 toilets in the house ??
Michael Scarantino
Posted at 17:49h, 26 AprilThe fat pig in office has no idea how the common man lives. Sure, he is taken care of but what about the poor people that can not work or earn money to feed their children? I’m surprised that he allowed us to purchase seed and other garden supplies to grow our own vegetables. Concealed carry should not be played with such as what he is doing. We have a right to protect ourselves and I for one will continue to do so.
Je a
Posted at 17:27h, 26 AprilHe needs to be kicked out of office. He is a disgrace to Illinois and making decisions that he has no power to make. This guy makes me puke in my mouth. Just the site of him or hearing him speak gives me the chills. Impeach him and kick his ass tot he curb
Edward
Posted at 17:06h, 26 AprilKeep in mind Pritzker is a Jew. He’s a communist too. And guess who started the Bolshevik revolution in Russia after WW1? 80 percent were Jews and no I will not apologize I just call a spade a spade no matter who they are or what religion if they’re doing wrong they’ll get my criticism.
Roberto
Posted at 18:42h, 26 AprilJew by religion, DNA, culture, citizenship, or because he has a big nose?
Communist by party membership or is that just a slap with a big paintbrush?
And which is better/worse … being a Jew or being a Communist? Can either be an American in your opinion?
HT
Posted at 10:15h, 28 AprilBy default, a communist cannot be an American. By essence, a communist is similar to a cockroach or a cancer, that can only take infest and kill. Learn history before asking a stupid question.
tbirdal
Posted at 16:06h, 26 AprilThis is why JP has to consult with the Legislature when comping up with these edicts.
John DPrikster
Posted at 15:19h, 26 Aprilcant have a gun on us while we have a mask on, your so stupid, tell that to a criminal
LindyLu
Posted at 13:56h, 26 AprilWhat I wear or don’t is none of his business. I’ve been locked away in my house for more than 2 months now. Pretty darn sure I don’t have Kung Fu Flu. Meanwhile my husband goes to work 5 days a week and has not brought it home to me yet. We live in the WORST STATE in the country when it comes to corruption and dirty politicians. D’s or R’s, it’s made no difference. We’ve had some of each sent to prison in my lifetime. Madigan RUNS EVERYTHING in our state. Nothing gets done here without his seal of approval. I was born in St Louis and lived my 1st 6 weeks of life over there. This has been my home for 61 yrs. THE ONLY THING that keeps us here is simply this. We have kids and grandkids here. If we didn’t, we’d of left this state yrs ago. They’ve taken our beautiful state and turned it practically into a damn 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. You couldn’t PAY ME to go up north. I feel sorry for the folks that live up there. It’s unconscionable how that City to the north has been ran for decades. If those folks had any sense they’d vote every last one of their political idiots running the show in the Chicago area out of office.
As for how many have gotten sick with this crap here in Illinois, look no further than Chicago. THAT is where the biggest part of the problem lies.
Whatever will they do once this dies out/off? Just another politician trying to be a little dictator here in Illinois AND I FOR ONE, am seriously sick of it.
Matt
Posted at 00:28h, 27 AprilMove.
Robert Sloat
Posted at 13:32h, 26 AprilMan am I a big time Class 4 felony culprit. At the shooting range, blasting away with face masks to deal with the red commie Chinese Wuhan flu seems so responsible. All my legal militia buddies shooting along with me agreeing to wear masks really amps up the charges. Coconspirators to commit unlawful weapons possession. Looking for big black SUVs parked in the road near our farm. One upsides is I got a great idea for using personalized head profile targets with certain likenesses.
lynn milles
Posted at 13:03h, 26 AprilI personally think that he should use that approach on the criminals and the goofs walking around with hoods covering their faces and masks before this ever started! We need to take back our country!! leave our civil rights alone!!
Qausi
Posted at 12:55h, 26 AprilThere has to be a lawyer out there Just waiting to file this lawsuit. I will continue to carry, because I’m sure criminals love the governor’s decision.
Warren J. Le Fever
Posted at 11:28h, 26 AprilTHIS IS RATHER TYPICAL OF ALL THESE “PUBLIC HEALTH” DECREES. They have not been studied and thought out well enough before the decree is announced. If the State Police has any sense, they should go back to the Governor quickly and get him to change some wordage rather than cause problems one way or another for citizens and then have a lawsuit against the State.
Matt
Posted at 00:34h, 27 AprilAnd what is the “wordage” you suggest?
Golden Country
Posted at 08:15h, 26 AprilThe issue that those who clamor on about this being a public health issue seem to forget the fact that government does not have unlimited rights to do and say as they please. They have to work within the constraints of the constitution. The executive branch can blurt out EO’s but they are not in all cases enforceable in court. There is nothing in the law that says you have to wear a mask in public. They can ask, they can educate but they cannot convict.
If anyone has been paying close attention, the death rate from this virus is similar to that of the seasonal flu. unfortunately older people and individuals with compromised immunities die from both.
Face coverings do not make you immune from a virus. There are ways to make yourself 100% immune from being in contact with the outside world and those that feel the need should take those steps instead of trampling on the rights of others. If you don,t feel safe than stay home, place yourself and your family under strict quarantine conditions because if you don’t and you feel that this virus is that deadly than you are as guilty as those you bemoan around you that are vocal about their rights.
Aaron
Posted at 07:49h, 26 AprilFOID backlog is still at least 8 months behind. I realized Illinois citizenry are third class citizenry compared to red states. Illinois is little China.
JT
Posted at 07:35h, 26 AprilThe mask would be worn for “health” reasons, and not the intent to conceal identity.
jmkraft
Posted at 14:07h, 26 AprilNo intent required.
Jean Lowe
Posted at 23:41h, 25 AprilI know he’s trying to protect us all. So I don’t think this is such a bad thing we just cant have a gun on us while we’re wearing a mask. I don’t think this law will affect cops as long as they are not holding their guns while wearing a mask they should be okay.
Dennis Dragomir
Posted at 05:00h, 26 Aprilwhat if they are muslim in a burkha?
jmkraft
Posted at 06:54h, 26 AprilGood question
Matt
Posted at 00:41h, 27 AprilCause there are so many Muslims around Illinois.
The burka is worn by women, not men. And regardless your question has zero to do with the original post.
jmkraft
Posted at 07:24h, 27 AprilI never had a question
David Somerset
Posted at 11:25h, 26 AprilWhat if you’re a Christian, an atheist, an agnostic, a male or a female or a Jew who likes to wear a burka?
David Somerset
Posted at 09:12h, 26 AprilNo disrespect to you intended, Jean. But, you have stated the “Illinois Way” in a short paragraph: make it up as you go along. There is no point in having laws that are not consistently and fairly enforced, as the legislature intended when they were passed, on every citizen. And that’s what we have had in Illinois and still have-before and after the Coronavirus Covid 19 struck. That’s why we live in the most corrupt state in the nation.
Gipper's Ghost
Posted at 09:46h, 26 April“I know he’s trying to protect us all, so I don’t think this is such a bad thing”
Are you for real? It’s sheeple like you that are the problem. Far too many Germans thought ole Adolph was just trying to protect them when he ordered those Jews to get on the trains.
Pricksters commandment doesn’t say anything about holding a gun, merely having it on one’s person.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Matt
Posted at 00:45h, 27 AprilIt’s funny that people say sheeple so much. Must be hard for you to formulate and argument.
Kathy morris
Posted at 12:57h, 26 AprilThis is not about our Police carrying a weapon. It is about citizens who conceal carry rights. The Governor told anyone about this law. Sneaky
Josh Vieira
Posted at 13:09h, 26 AprilHow does that leather taste?
Kathy
Posted at 20:16h, 26 AprilHave you seen any cops wearing masks? All the videos posted on the internet usually show them without masks.
David Somerset
Posted at 21:45h, 25 AprilI am unable to find anywhere in 720 ILCS 5/24-1 through 720 ILCS 5/24-10 (cited above) any exemption(s) for anyone, including police officers and peace officers, law enforcement and retired law enforcement officers, from 720 ILCS 5/24-1(a)(9):
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons. (a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(9) Carries or possesses in a vehicle or on or about his or her person any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or firearm or ballistic knife, when he or she is hooded, robed or masked in such manner as to conceal his or her identity.
So, is an armed police officer driving a police car while wearing a face mask committing a class 4 felony?
Think about this. Because the attorney or assistant to the governor who wrote this mishmash of an executive order didn’t.
Roberto
Posted at 18:36h, 26 AprilSo, the police officer is committing a felony by wearing shades.
Nemo
Posted at 11:24h, 27 AprilThe mask alone with valid CCW would not stand in court, they’d have to have Probable cause/another crime to charge you with (in other words the mask is an enhanced charging factor). It would help if laws were written in plain English but once you read enough of them you can easier ascertain what they mean. If you check out the following definition under the attached link it will further explain what I am saying “Definition Of Aggravated Unlawful Use Of Weapons–Concealing One’s Identity– Enhancing Factor Based Upon Location”
https://courts.illinois.gov/CircuitCourt/CriminalJuryInstructions/CRIM%2018.00.pdf
Des Kreet
Posted at 21:24h, 25 AprilI am reminded on a daily basis that our nation has become filled with people who have confused constitutional rights for the absolutely non-negotiable permission to never be told there are limits. In this instance, I would encourage you to research the court case Jacobson vs. Massachusetts specifically the Supreme Court decision as related to government restrictions of citizens rights in certain circumstances. This is a public health issue. Illinois has one of the highest rates of infection in the entire country. I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but, right across the river, Missouri has 80% less cases and and less than 1/8th the number of deaths. If not being able to carry a weapon is that large an inconvenience, simply don’t wear a mask. My guess is that if you’re in southern Illinois or the more rural parts of the state, the local law enforcement won’t do anything about it just as many of them refused to enforce the concealed carry ban. Logically, you have to know that carrying a firearm while wearing a mask that covers ones face is a terrible idea, it makes everyone less safe from the person doing it to the cops on the street so, yeah, put your desire, ( and let’s be honest, it’s a desire not a need), to carry a firearm above your health and the health of others and just go without the mask! Problem solved!
Steve
Posted at 08:19h, 26 April“a desire and not a need” ” it makes everyone less safe” unfactual,truly ignorant statements, keep up the good work!
MB
Posted at 09:40h, 26 AprilHow exactly does it make everyone less safe? Wearing a mask does not inherently make you safe or unsafe when carrying a firearm. It’s your intention and and that isn’t changed by the presence of a mask.
Josh Vieira
Posted at 13:10h, 26 AprilHow does that boot feel on your tongue?
HT
Posted at 10:32h, 28 AprilSimply citing a court case doesn’t make you more intelligent or better justifies your opinion. Yes, it’s still just your opinion. The Constitution is still intact, for now at least, so skip over all of your hidden desire to obey or illusion of safety, and consider that this is still America.
It’s not for you or any governor to say what my desires or needs should be. It’s not required by law or the Constitution for me to worry how you conduct your life or your health.
Throughout this crisis, we now know that having bad health is not good if you get the virus. Maybe all of you state-control freaks should worry more about your own health and get in better shape, so that when you get sick, you’ll have a fighting chance.
This preaching of the public good is running thin and hypocritical. Having a fat pig drooling while telling me what healthy should be is truly and ironically funny. Seeing Lightfoot flanked by her panels of posers, who by the way, are ALL not the picture of health, preaching about health and saving lives is also just comical. They’re better off just promoting fitness and exercise as a way to boost your immune system to fight the virus.
Reasonable Americans know better to take care of their own family and health than socialist wannabes want to accept.
Dave
Posted at 20:29h, 25 AprilThis is a clear example of a dysfunctional, overreaching, and power abusing state government that is operating contrary to the Illinois Constitution. Any law which is repugnant to the Constitution IS null and void as outside the scope of powers delegated to state govt. That is not an issue in the realm of personal judgment or opinion. It’s an issue of FACT.
Matt
Posted at 00:42h, 27 AprilHow? Tell us the facts…
mark misiorowski
Posted at 18:23h, 25 AprilIt has been roughly a decade since McDonald v. City of Chicago was handed down.
The EO cited in your article makes you wonder whether a new 1983 suit might be on the horizon, followed by a US DOJ Certificate of Interest.
Hmmm
Ginny Barnard
Posted at 18:06h, 25 AprilIs anyone working on filing a law suit. I am one of those conceal to carry Americans that he will be striping of my rights.
Matt
Posted at 00:41h, 27 AprilThen you should file a lawsuit…