Illinois – The numbers don’t add up

You people are hilarious, desperately searching for evidence that shows this pandemic isn’t one. Once this is all over, you will be able to look back and see the number of dead people piled up at a higher rate than ever. The final statistics will show substantial increases in death rates. New York Times published numbers last week that are starting to tell the story.
Even if the OP’s assertion of “hur dur, getting eaten by an alligator is a COVID death, hur dur” IS true (it’s not, I know doctors who’ve weighed in with what’s really happening), that won’t explain the total number of people dying spiking the way it has. Go talk to a funeral home director in New Orleans, Detroit, New York, etc.

I’m disturbed by how Governor Pritzker has misrepresented some statistics to justify keeping the covid-19 lockdown in effect in the St. Louis Metro East. Per the Belleville News Democrat, on May 4th he claimed that only 25 ICU beds were available in the Metro East hospital region, which he used to justify the continued lockdown.

This is misleading because it ignores the fact that the Metro East is also served by the hospitals on the Missouri side of metro St. Louis. When the entire bi-state St. Louis metropolitan area is viewed as a whole, there were about 1,000 available ICU beds per the St. Louis Metropolitan Pandemic Task Force as reported in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

https://www.bnd.com/news/coronavirus/article242480631.html

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/coronavirus/missouri-reports-largest-single-day-jump-in-covid-19-cases-illinois-adds-46-deaths-monday/article_810d1193-05a6-5e88-bea0-928c932658bf.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

There was also the incident on April 27 where Governor Pritzker claimed that Monroe County had one of the highest per capita covid-19 death rates in Illinois, but failed to mention that was because one nursing home had nine deaths out of a total county population of 34,637.

https://www.bnd.com/news/coronavirus/article242322806.html

CDC numbers. Just wish SOMEBODY would speak the truth. Definitely not politicians. ANY of them. Or the big media.
Sorry if this is duplicate post. I prematurely hit submit earlier.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

CDC numbers. This entire situation is a shell game. Just wish SOMEBODY

2457 is approximately 100% greater than 1296, not 48% as stated. 1296 is 48% _of_ 2457.

I can’t wait for your update to this post with, the CDC showing over 2,600 COVID deaths in IL. That’s coming, right?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

LOL. No, this isn’t the 19th iteration of the coronavirus.

Since the statute gives the governor 30 days of emergency powers, and he issued his proclamation of March 9th, how is it that he still has the legal authority to impose a state of emergency?

As of right this moment per IDPH database there have been 47 cases and five deaths at the Newton Home is Jasper County and and a total of 45 cases and 5 deaths in all of Jasper County. Close enough for Government work?

I’ve read article and information at the link you’ve provided. I now understand that a COVID-19 reported death(s) are lagged by a death(s) certificate.

Wont let you post links? That is totally false. See comments below that contain links.

See word magick rituals for the real reason they are hoaxing you with that number. Think 9/11.

Kirk and followers: Have none of you read Orwell’s “1984”? You are following the script perfectly. You won’t let me post any links here so I can’t give you the cliff notes. You dogs are wonderful in what you do but you are quite a bit short-sighted on what is REALLY going on.

We are not disputing or questioning the virus and its dangers. This article DOES NOT diminish the science of the virus. It points out the inconsistent information the government is telling the public.

Political Bias? LOL Here we go again. Another opinion that is not based in anything other than your opinion. The virus does not know what political party it is infecting. Stop the baseless partisan accusations.

When we filed an OIG complaint against Republican Governor Rauner, we were told by Republicans that we we only did so because we supported the Democrats. Now when we expose the Democrat we get accused of being political. We have heard this crap a thousand times and the fact is, there is no truth to those unsubstantiated claims.

In Illinois those medical experts have told us the way they are recording these case deaths and their methodology is not good science!

239,000 deaths world wide in 4 months. Those numbers do add up. It adds up to an extremely dangerous virus that can kill you. If your family is ever horrifically effected by this virus you might be more driven to post an article of a different tone.

Not entirely related to this article but an opinion of mine:
I’m in favor of true, honest and unbiased opinions. The problem is you are both politically biased and that tends to steer your articles direction and provide the necessary “spin” to make your political point. In a country where there is no longer non biased, real, true and actual reporting of news, a true need for an organization to expose corruption within local governments is admirable. You have an opportunity to be admirable, to make a difference and most importantly to be something that no longer exists. A non biased political reporting group. As of today, your not.

The ratio of cases of documented COVID-19 to deaths is important to exam. With 42 cases in Jasper County and 5 deaths that is significant. Yes, these cases and deaths are tied to a nursing home, but throughout the country there are a significant number of younger healthier people who have died. Any situation where people are crowded to together elder care centers, slaughterhouses, jails, prisons, factories, schools,… cases spike. At this time, we have had 68000 deaths tied to COVID-19 since the first of March, with ~1,200,000 documented cases. More testing is important to understand and know the extent of COVID-19! We do not have “herd” immunity nor a vaccine at this time. We will all get COVID-19 if we are exposed to it, in some way shape or form. To get natural immunity or until a vaccine, it is possible that 330,000,000 citizen / ~1,200,000 documented COVID-19 cases times 68,000 deaths could occur (>18,000,000). This is real! It is not a typical flu virus. The second round of “Spanish Flu” in 1918 was worse than the first round. There is a reasonable chance of a second round this fall. Data and statistical evaluation can being confusing and can be intentionally misrepresented depending on the intent of the presenter. Listen to the medical experts.

Thank you. The Illinois COVID-19 response included closing ALL state parks. This may have been the most restrictive response of any of the state governments…kindly an ‘outlier’ among state government responses. Aptly, an inexcusable failure of the Illinois administration to rise to a demand for precision in order to assure access to the essential resources that are public lands.

The COVID-19 death rate is not 10%. If you believe it is, please cite the source of that information.

Funny how the article plays with numbers as well. It is right about the number of cases as a low percentage, but if you take the number of people who got infected and the number that died that is a 10% death rate. Everyone talks about the flu killing more people. That may be the case, but how many people who get the flu die is a lot different when you have 1 million people get the flu and then take 61k who get Covid 19. Guess what, having more deaths from a sample of million is a lot different than having that same or similar number in a smaller sample. I bet if I told you 5 people won the lottery in a sample size of 10 is the same as 50 people winning in a group of 2 million you would say it is better to play against the 2 million. Covid 19 does not have cure. Is that hard to understand. If you get it you just hope you are strong enough to make it through. Can’t say that about the flu.

the total global numbers for covid19 as of today are still blow the numbers of a regular flu season. cross reference that and you’ll end up with more questions than answers.

the 19 for covid19 comes from the first world reported case being in 2019, nothing to do with the virus strain. although this is one of the worst coronavirus strains seen to date its just a huge reminder of how important hygiene practice is. I’m a type 1 diabetic they claim im a high risk person. thus far knock on wood I’ve only suffered the same seasonal allergies i do every year from mid jan into the middle of spring. if you allow yourself to live in fear you are already allowing your body to become weaker. being part of the so called “essential work group” my daily routines have not changed much. we as the people need to stand up and keep the government in check and exercise our constitutional rights as “we the people” rest assured if we go blindly following the government we will loose our way of life as we know it along with our valued freedoms that the constitution gives us.

I find it odd that you don’t hear of any deaths from other causes except covid19 . Sounds like there’s more money to be made from covid19 deaths. I think we are all being duped in some fashion about this whole pandemic.

That is what Mike stated. What does any news media have to do with anything in this article? COVID-19 was identified in 2019. Who said or implied it was a 19th iteration? This is your second comment that leans towards brow beating rather than constructive dialog. If you goal is to simply name call and attack people please take your efforts elsewhere.

The link you provided is based on data from this link, according to the CDC. https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/

The link in the article is to the actual CDC collected and published data. If your goal is to simply name call and attack, you’re wasting your time. If your goal is to ensure the truth is published, we encourage dialog and input. In this case, your input is based on information that is not from the CDC according to the notes in the very link you sent.

If we are to believe the information in the link you provided, which conflicts with the actual CDC web site linked in the article, would you agree the numbers don’t add up, which is what we state in the title?

Please explain how this information in any way is dangerous, right or wrong?

Thanks all you Democrat’s for higher taxes and higher counts on c19 more Democrats bull shit all over the country dam shame your drunk leader of the house and crazy Joe are not sharing ventilator but I’ll governor would order 10 for each of them

The 19 in Covid-19 is for the year 2019 not the 19th iteration my god stop listening to Fox News and better educate yourself

An Illinois politiican may have lied? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you! To quote Elwood blues, it’s not a lie it’s just bullshit

Interesting I actually went to the CDC website and it is the person who wrote this that doesn’t add up….

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/county-map.html?state=IL

I hope people are looking into the information it seems any idiot a allowed to spout before actually dangerous misinforming others.

Please follow up with answers to the questions this article points out! Please do not let our Governor get away without answering to the discrepancies!!

I have many symptoms. (68 year old with mild lung issues). I called the ER where I live & was told they don’t usually test unless from a nursing home or Assisted Living but instead treats the symptoms. Going through the hotline number at IDPH, I do qualify for the test. I will drive 40 miles today to get it. Do we really know a correct number? How many would give up after calling ER? I don’t blame the ER staff; they were very helpful. I will say IDPH was wonderful, thorough & actually ordered an antibiotic.

COVID-19 wasn’t so named because it’s the “19th iteration.” COVID-19 derives it’s name because it began in 2019. Please correct me if my information is wrong.

Best as I can tell, you guys have a decimal error. Number of infected 9611/42=0.43%. Number I’d deaths 9611/5=0.052%. You guys did great work on this article. Keep it up! There’s something really wrong with what’s going on.

Another example of “FIGURES DON’T LIE BUT LIARS FIGURE”

The “science” and the numbers have never added up from the beginning. Their “science” is discounting all immunology studies from the past, “this is nothing like any virus’ from the past”. If so, then how did this get to be the 19th itertation of the ever present corona virus??? And the fact that they resisted serology testing til now instead of from the beginning is another tell. Is this virus dangerous??? Probably, and always for those with pre-existing conditions and imunocompromised. So is the “ordinary” annual flu bug. Is it more contagious/infectious?? I would say no if it takes up to 14 days after exposure to maybe display symptoms or not. The “ordinary” flu has a faster incubation time, can be 7 days or less. I could go on…

There is almost nothing that adds up about this country’s reaction to the Wuhan Virus

New c19 math, all you old timers who are home schooling someone you may need to call a state accountant to properly understand

Does Mr Bailey have a court date yet or is it being put off till the end of the month?